Can't hear the difference between Spotify and hi-res quality? That could be a blessing in disguise

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Here at What Hi-Fi? we firmly believe that a higher quality stream can make all the difference to your listening experience – especially when paired with decent hi-fi.

It's why we support Neil Young's latest dig at Spotify in March. Young criticised the service’s poor stream quality while simultaneously announcing his music’s return to it. For those short of memory, he removed his catalogue to protest Spotify hosting the Joe Rogan Podcast two years prior.

Politics aside, many of the What Hi-Fi? team were nodding in agreement when they read his blog post announcing the move: 

“The #1 streamer of low res music in the world – Spotify, where you get less quality than we made… I hope all you millions of Spotify users enjoy my songs! They will now all be there for you except for the full sound we created.”

We’ve also long bemoaned the fact Spotify doesn’t offer CD-quality, let alone hi-res, streaming. It announced a CD-quality ('lossless') Spotify HiFi tier over three years ago, but it still hasn't materialised. The lack of high-quality streaming is a key reason why many of the team favour Tidal and other hi-res services, both at home and at work while testing hi-fi. 

Trust me, when paired with decent audio hardware, if you have the ear to hear the difference it’s hard to go back to basic Spotify.

But, despite our belief in better quality, to the surprise of myself and the team, the opinion divided our community, with a vocal number of you disagreeing with Young.

“For most people, Spotify quality is enough,” wrote one reader on our Facebook page.

“Sorry Neil, NO ONE CARES,” chimed in another, less diplomatic reader.

The sea of thumbs-up emojis that posts like this received left us slightly sad. But, the more we pondered it, the more we found ourselves coming to a simple conclusion: in one way, you're right.

As individuals who consider hi-fi a hobby as well as a job, and who are accustomed to listening to music through high-quality set-ups, often in dedicated test rooms using equipment half the value of the houses we live in, we are familiar with the finer things in hi-fi.

Of course, many people don’t get that opportunity. Maybe they don't have an interest in high-quality playback, which is fine, or perhaps they do but don't have the bank balance or domestic space to build a separates system, let alone one that features the kind of top-end hardware we showcase in our Temptations reviews.

With that in mind, our technical editor, Ketan Bharadia, made a very good point – if you can’t afford it, ignorance is in many ways bliss.

If you can’t tell, or haven’t had a chance to hear, the differences between Spotify streams through a Bluetooth speaker and Tidal streams through a hi-fi system, to offer two polar extremes, you won’t feel the need to spend more on your set-up. 

Naturally, we'd love people interested in music to get a taste for good sound quality, but the idea reminded me of a related, very first-world dilemma I’ve been having with my whisky preferences.

As an adult, I’ve always enjoyed a nice whisky at the end of a long week at work. Traditionally I’ve stuck to the single malts and blends within my budget, but recently my lovely wife has gotten into the wonderful habit of surprising me with tasting events and distillery tours for special occasions.

This typically involves an expert discussing the different types of whisky on offer and giving you a selection to taste. These often include the entire range, including expensive options I’d normally never get access to.

There have been two consequences to this. First, I have clear proof my wife is awesome as she usually comes with me despite being more of a gin person. Second, I have developed a taste for expensive whisky I cannot sensibly afford.

When buying whisky I used to get excited to see five quid off one of my favourite entry-level single malts at Tesco. Now I find myself staring at distilleries’ web stores hovering the cursor over the latest ambrosia I got a sniff of at my last tasting, wishing I could afford it.

Is this a first-world problem? Of course. Does it make the fact that I now know what I’m missing out on any less painful? No. 

In my mind, the same dilemma exists for people yet to enjoy the benefits of high-quality audio, or who simply can’t hear the differences between basic Spotify and hi-res streams from Tidal and its ilk. You can't miss what you've never had, so is it better to never know what's just beyond your budget?

From there we get back to the basic philosophical question: is it better to be a fool satisfied than Socrates dissatisfied? And to that, I don’t have an answer. But I can say the fool’s bank balance will likely look healthier.

MORE:

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Alastair Stevenson
Editor in Chief

Alastair is What Hi-Fi?’s editor in chief. He has well over a decade’s experience as a journalist working in both B2C and B2B press. During this time he’s covered everything from the launch of the first Amazon Echo to government cyber security policy. Prior to joining What Hi-Fi? he served as Trusted Reviews’ editor-in-chief. Outside of tech, he has a Masters from King’s College London in Ethics and the Philosophy of Religion, is an enthusiastic, but untalented, guitar player and runs a webcomic in his spare time. 

  • Corpus_Chain
    Great article! As both a hi-fi nerd and a whisky enthusiast, I can empthise with your situation. I think I envy people who are unaware of the joys of expensive hi-fi, and are happy to listen to their music on whatever device, while I go through life sneering at low quality audio. Sometimes people will play a song to me on their phone and ask what I think: my response is, "can you send me a link? I can't give an opinion without hearing it on a proper system." I think in these situations, I miss out on a little human connection due to my snobbery about hi-fi, and I wish I didn't care. But you can't unknow what you know, and I guess I can't really be too hard on myself for that.
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  • Friesiansam
    I think it is very simple. Many basic Spotify users are using devices that can’t make the most of higher quality streams, so they can’t tell the difference and, it’s likely most basic Spotify users don’t actually care.
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  • AndrewF
    This editorial comes across as a bit condescending, and considering the likely audience of audiophiles, more than a little self-congratulatory. I don’t think anyone is questioning that “good gear sounds better”, although there is very definitely a point of diminishing return and a lot of snake oil out there. It’s also reasonably clear that people can tell the difference between heavily compressed MP3 and better files. It’s not at all clear, though, from scientifically conducted, blinded A/B studies, that the overwhelming majority of people can tell “CD quality” from high-res files. I can only speak to my own experience- I have decent gear, appreciate the difference between my best system and the others, but am almost entirely unable to tell the difference between Apple Music streamed over AirPlay 2 and the “high-resolution” files I get from a hardwired connection.

    (Sorry for the bold type- not sure what I did)
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  • bradavon
    No you haven't. Spotify Premium and TIDAL Hi-Fi both cost the same.

    From the 10th of August Tidal Hi-Fi Plus id being abolished and you'll even get High Res audio for the same price as Spotify.

    Two basic facts the author should've checked because they both the argument away.

    Spotify and YouTube Music are now the only two music streaming services not offering at least CD Quality Lossless 🤷
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  • bradavon
    Friesiansam said:
    I think it is very simple. Many basic Spotify users are using devices that can’t make the most of higher quality streams, so they can’t tell the difference and, it’s likely most basic Spotify users don’t actually care.
    Most users only use Bluetooth these days.

    Which for the majority of users only supports Lossy Audio anyway.

    To hear "the difference" you need to not be using bluetooth.
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  • Friesiansam
    bradavon said:
    Most users only use Bluetooth these days.

    Which for the majority of users only supports Lossy Audio anyway.

    To hear "the difference" you need to not be using bluetooth.
    Indeed.
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  • Mac202
    I had been happily listening to Spotify on my home speaker systems for a few years. I then purchased some B&W wireless headphones. Despite the glowing reviews I was somewhat underwhelmed by the headphones performance.

    Later B&W offered me a 3 months free subscription to Qobuz. I then started to realise what I had been missing. A bit of reading up also explained that in accessing my music via Bluetooth that I still wasn’t getting the best sound available. So I plugged my headphones into my laptop, set the sound card to 24/192 and a whole new world of sound opened up for me.

    Inevitably this then lead to me getting a DAC so that I could access my music from my phone and after much reading and YT videos I am much more enlightened into the whole topic of lossless and Hi-res audio.

    There is always the temptation to upgrade what you have but like AndrewF says there is very definitely a point of diminishing returns with all of this.

    I’m just a rookie and have a lot to learn about hi-fi audio but nevertheless even my 69 year old ears could clearly make out the difference between Spotify lossy and lossless audio, given the right equipment.

    Was I happy with Spotify before all this. Yes, but not entirely. I often felt that there was some clipping or distortion present, particularly with high-pitched sounds and that there was something generally missing from my music. Looking back now I can see that it was like I had been listening to it all through a tea towel.
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  • Blackswan
    The problem with audiophiles is that they often spend too much time listening to the hifi and not the music. It's a woods and trees scenario. Spotify might not be perfect but I'm happy to sacrifice a little sound quality for its flexibility.
    Is Tidal better? Perhaps. Is Spotify good enough? Yes.
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  • Blackswan
    Mac202 said:
    I had been happily listening to Spotify on my home speaker systems for a few years. I then purchased some B&W wireless headphones. Despite the glowing reviews I was somewhat underwhelmed by the headphones performance.

    Later B&W offered me a 3 months free subscription to Qobuz. I then started to realise what I had been missing. A bit of reading up also explained that in accessing my music via Bluetooth that I still wasn’t getting the best sound available. So I plugged my headphones into my laptop, set the sound card to 24/192 and a whole new world of sound opened up for me.

    Inevitably this then lead to me getting a DAC so that I could access my music from my phone and after much reading and YT videos I am much more enlightened into the whole topic of lossless and Hi-res audio.

    There is always the temptation to upgrade what you have but like AndrewF says there is very definitely a point of diminishing returns with all of this.

    I’m just a rookie and have a lot to learn about hi-fi audio but nevertheless even my 69 year old ears could clearly make out the difference between Spotify lossy and lossless audio, given the right equipment.

    Was I happy with Spotify before all this. Yes, but not entirely. I often felt that there was some clipping or distortion present, particularly with high-pitched sounds and that there was something generally missing from my music. Looking back now I can see that it was like I had been listening to it all through a tea towel.
    Yeah using an external DAC with nice headphones sounds better than my BT wireless headphones but the flexibility of the BT headphones usually wins out for me in most situations.
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  • My2Cents
    This article comes across as one big ad for Spotify with the 'Today's best Tidal Music and Spotify deals' links at the end... but actually no link to Tidal at all, just three links to Spotify! Was this article paid for by Ek?
    I have no desire to support the Beyonce - Jay-Z Empire or Tidals' MQA nonsnese and so I choose Qobuz.
    Qobuz is, if one purchases an annual subscription, the same price as a single user Spotify premium subsciption and, while it may not provide some of the 'features' for many users on the move, it provides great sound and an excellent selection of music for those who are not consumers of 'junk' pop music.
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