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Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 2:49 PM

amplifier over heating when driven hard.

marantz amp pm7200. 8-16 ohm speakers recommended.

canton floor stander speakers  4-8 ohm impedance.

Any recomendations on this problem?

thank tony

Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 3:16 PM

8824

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

Ummm, don't drive it so hard? 

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Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 3:18 PM

8845

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

^^^^LOL^^^^




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Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 4:03 PM

8846

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

 Sorry not meant to be a totally fatuous answer: the Marantz is a pretty robust amp, and to drive it hard enough that it overheats must be pushing it well into distortion territory, which would eventually damage the speakers.

If you really must run it that loud, you need a (much) more powerful amp. 

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Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 6:12 PM

8862

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

The Marantz is run quite warm anyway but yes, second Andrew that the amp can go very loud without too much stress so if you think it's over heating may be something wrong, either with your amp or your ears, why not pop in to next door and see if they are still there!?  or make sure the Class A button is not on.




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Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 7:22 PM

8899

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

What size room have you got that you're driving it that hard? 

Posted on Sep 04, 2007, 7:49 PM

8914

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

If it's anything like the PM4001 I'd dump it sharpish,jeez,that got hot,and smelt.You have two possibilities,get more efficient speakers,or a more powerful amplifier.Do you mean though the case is getting hot?,or that it is cutting out when driven hard?
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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 12:46 AM

8918

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

 Have to question the levels you guys run at it the amp gets hot and smells. Never encountered that myself, even with the ludicrous levels I at which used to run the WHF demo rigs at shows in the pre Sound and Vision days. Still remember the looks of terror when we blasted out the KLF's America: What Time Is Love?

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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 1:19 AM

8978

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

i get the same problem with my azur 640 v2 but i do admit i push it a lot, a lot more then its suposed to. its just that when i put metallica on i need to feel as if thy're actualy in the room... sad but true!
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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 12:29 PM

8978

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

I only ever noticed the smell from the Marantz 4001,horrid little thing,was played loud but just smelt all the time.I used to have a PM44SE many moons ago,that never smelt bad though.
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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 1:39 PM

8824

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

well, if you want to match your speakers impedance you could bung an audio transformer between your amp and your speakers.

http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/audio-transformers.htm

 It's going to effect your sound quality, though I am not sure how badly. The other bonus, though, is that it will provide full DC protection to your speakers because they will be DC isolated, your amp will be driving the primary transformer winding, not the speakers. The secondary transformer winding can step down the voltage one half, effectively doubling your speaker impedance.

 

It's worth noting that this sort of thing is normally done as part of a tuned speaker enclosure, I would have thought....  But hang on, are you sure it's 8-16 ohms recommended load for that amp? sounds a bit high to me.
 

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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 1:46 PM

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Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

[quote user="sex"]its just that when i put metallica on i need to feel as if thy're actualy in the room... sad but true![/quote]

Trouble is, these musician chappies tend to use quite a lot of power to get that sound. Last time I saw The 'Oo I was talking to someone who was involved in the sound system, and asked what sort of amp power they were running.

The answer? 120kW, give or take... 

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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 1:48 PM

9084

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

 Marantz's spec

Power Output (8/4 Ohm RMS) 95/155 Watts
(Class A: 25 Watts)
Power Output (8/4 Ohm DIN) 105/165 Watts
Power Output (8/4 Ohm IHF) 120/185 Watts
Frequency Response 10Hz-50kHz (+0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.03%
Bridged Power Output (8 Ohm RMS) -
Damping Factor 150
Input Sensitivity: MM 2.5 mV / 47 kOhm
Input Sensitivity: MC -
Input Sensitivity: High level 150mV /40kOhm
Signal to Noise Ratio MM/MC/High Level    85/-/88 dB
Channel separation: 1kHz / 10kHz >80/70 dB




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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 11:18 PM

9087

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

dno worry andrew im not gonna ask u if i can buy a 120kw power amp and im not about to start y cabling monobloks one on to of the other to get that sortof power 2 300w power amp will do me fine or maybe 4................
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Posted on Sep 05, 2007, 11:28 PM

9237

Re: amplifier over heating when driven hard.

 Sounds like we're back to a brace of 550k Superchargers...

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