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Sorry, just seen this.

In the current, sub£500 HD-capable receiver market, pre-outs (sadly) simply aren't a reality - manufacturers have to give up something to come in at that price point, and it seems that while @£400 receivers of yore had pre-outs, these models have HD and HDMI.

I agree, however, that this should have been more clearly explained. I've asked that it's flagged up more explicitly from here on in...
 

Gutted, was just starting to think the denon was my next purchase. I was pretty set on the denon after your glowing review and just assumed it had pre-outs. You wouldnt think it would cost that much to add preouts during production.

I need hd decoding and preouts but not really fussed about loads of hdmi or upscaling. Looks like the onkyo 705 is the only receiver on my sub £500 shortlist and maybe the next model up from the yamaha you tested (the ax 763, i think) now.

Clare Newsome:

Sorry, just seen this.

In the current, sub£500 HD-capable receiver market, pre-outs (sadly) simply aren't a reality - manufacturers have to give up something to come in at that price point, and it seems that while @£400 receivers of yore had pre-outs, these models have HD and HDMI.

I agree, however, that this should have been more clearly explained. I've asked that it's flagged up more explicitly from here on in...
 

Clare Newsome:

Sorry, just seen this.

In the current, sub£500 HD-capable receiver market, pre-outs (sadly) simply aren't a reality - manufacturers have to give up something to come in at that price point, and it seems that while @£400 receivers of yore had pre-outs, these models have HD and HDMI.

I agree, however, that this should have been more clearly explained. I've asked that it's flagged up more explicitly from here on in...
 

Gerrardasnails:

The upcoming Sony 2400 has pre outs, upconversion, upscaling 1080p from analogue and four hdmi all for sub £500 (albeit a £1 or so)!

But we hadn't tested the Sony 2400ES - or even got a confirmed price - when we did the Group Test the Denon won.

We still haven't had it in our hands (though it's on its way) and are not going to pre-judge its performance based on tech-specs.... 

le_vicar:

Does any one know how the AVR 1909 would compare to say the AVR 3808? I ask because the Denon higher end models are not being updated this year.

Clare Newsome:

Gerrardasnails:

The upcoming Sony 2400 has pre outs, upconversion, upscaling 1080p from analogue and four hdmi all for sub £500 (albeit a £1 or so)!

But we hadn't tested the Sony 2400ES - or even got a confirmed price - when we did the Group Test the Denon won.

We still haven't had it in our hands (though it's on its way) and are not going to pre-judge its performance based on tech-specs.... 

Hems:

Has the AVR2309 got Pre outs?

Clare Newsome:

Gerrardasnails:

The upcoming Sony 2400 has pre outs, upconversion, upscaling 1080p from analogue and four hdmi all for sub £500 (albeit a £1 or so)!

But we hadn't tested the Sony 2400ES - or even got a confirmed price - when we did the Group Test the Denon won.

We still haven't had it in our hands (though it's on its way) and are not going to pre-judge its performance based on tech-specs....