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Posted on May 11, 2008, 10:18 PM

Exceptionally bad experience purchasing from Comet

 Hi guys/gals,

 

I know Comet isn't the place to purchase enthusiast hardware but please read the email i sent to them today for a summary of how bad my experience was with them, AVOID at all costs!

 

 

Dear Comet,

 

Firstly, may I request that this email is not responded to with a typical pre-written approved response, I would like this to be viewed by someone in seniority.

 

Yesterday I had one of the single-worst and most embarressing experiences of my life in your store in Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. I purchased a Toshiba TV (32AV505D) on my credit card at the price of £399.99 on Friday afternoon for my friend who in attention purchased a £129.99 extended warranty for the TV and a £30 accessory. We originally intended to purchase an LG 32LB75 as we'd read good reviews on this model and met the specifications we required.

 

Sadly upon arrival we discovered that this model was discontinued but as wished to purchase a TV that day we asked a sale's person for assitance on a similar priced/spec model that achieved excellent results using an Xbox360 via HDMI, we were reccommended the above model. We purchased it as it met the specs and took it home eager to try it out. Upon trying the TV we were astonished by it's lack of quality in regards to the colour output and visual refresh rate. As the TV is used purely as a display for the XBOX360 we were terribly disappointed by what appeared to be ghosting effects when an image moved at speed on the screen, it left a black shadow behind it.

 

As we have a 2 year old LG model that cost the same price that gave a vastly superior image display we were not prepared to accept the poor quality of this unit and planned to return it the next day. Upon arriving at the store we were grilled as to what the 'fault' was by your returns staff. We explained that there was no fault, but the actual quality of the TV was simply unacceptable and had we had it demonstrated on a HD source prior to buying it we certainly would have chosen another model (nice how a TC store runs HDTV's on analouge signals in store to demonstrate their 'quality', good job!).

 

We were informed that as there was no fault we couldn't get a full refund and would have to pay a 10% restocking fee (£39.99 in this instance) which I was 100% not prepared to do as I felt deceived by your staff's reccommendation and felt this product was terribly inferior compared to other models of similar age and price. A modern TV should not be affected by by image blurring, ghosting or image tearing via an HD source, absolutely abysmal. Your staff went through the process of testing the TV via analouge, via upscaled DVD via HDMI despite being repeattedly told that was not the issue and I finally pursueded a member of staff to demo the problem on an XBOX360 via HDMI.

 

This is where things get incredible. As there were no demo units with HDMI available this gentleman preceeded to open up a brand new XBOX360 for us to test...... does this make sense? Let's charge a customer a 10% restocking fee but open up brand new products that cannot be sold now at full-value to make our point on our returns policy! This I simply could not believe and I will be speaking to Microsoft regarding this as I have been informed that because this didn't leave the store it will be sold at full price. Absolutely pathetic!

 

So, at this point Jason the store manager has joined us to discuss the issue (1 hour later I might add) as we demostrate our issues with the image via Xbox360, myself, my friend, his mother, brother and sister were all present to illustrate the issue but it was being completely ignored by the staff reviewing the problem, all they saw was that an image was being displayed and not the issue we had with the definition (or lack of) of the image. At this point I had argued with the Store Manager for 30mins who refused to back down on his stance on refund but would give me a 'Full Credit' if I take another item in store (what a load of cobblers your 10% charge is then) which I may have considered as I need a new laptop but after the terrible service I received I did not wish to do business with Comet again. At this point I did not want to deal with the store manager as I felt his attitude was unhelpful and showed no apathy for a customer in distress, he was more concerned with upholding a policy than disfusing the situation.

 

I asked him if I could have the number for your customer services to which he provided me with an 08705 number, I politely asked him if I could have the local number as I did not wish to call a charged line from my mobile, he repeatedly declined so I asked if he could ask someone at the head office to call me. He enquired on my behalf but they do not make' out calls' apparently, nice attitude again. Eventually he succumbed and gave me the local number in Hull, I tried to ring this 5 times in a 10 minute spell and repeatedly received a response saying to call back later, so I caved in and called the 08705 number, which gave me a completely different recorded message, so this became apparent that I had been lied to by the store manager and he gave me an incorrect number.

 

I get through and spend a few minutes explaining the issue to a member of staff, as soon as I mention i am at the store, they cut me off! No warning, just cut the line dead. So after 2 hours of diplomatic discussion and patience I am now getting ticked off, it's one of the hottest days of the year and I'm persperating terribly, half the store is aware of what is going on this point and it's causing embarressment and your store manager has walked off to pick his nose at the front of the doors and greet people.

 

I make another call and I'm later cut off again and given attitude by the lady I spoke to on the phone, I'm really upset now, I get the attention of the store manager again and inform him, "I've been treated terribly and been here for over 2 hours, you must realise I'm not going anywhere until this dealt with?" At which point he proceeds to go  behind the desk and dial 999. Can you believe this? He says to the operator 'this man refuses to leave the store' when I hadn't once been asked to leave, I hadn't once shouted or swore at this man or any other member of staff when the situation probably warranted that I did so. At this point I'm broken my resolve is leaving me but I wait 30mins to see if the police would arrive as I wanted to speak to them myself, they never showed, but my friend was now 1 hour late for work and said he'd pay the fee and just get it sorted, so we did and left.

 

I am now however extremely upset with how I have been dealt with as a customer with a genuine dispute, I am quite within my rights to complain at the store and not expect to have the police called when your inept store manager can't handle the situation, even the staff there said to me and my friend that the manager was out of order, you're own staff! I have 4 witnesses to the fact of how poorly I have been dealt with and to the problem with the TV that we raised initially.

 

Now I am £39.99 out of pocket because of your Store Manager's refusal to help me, although it's OK for them to be opening up brand new XBOX360's to make their point? Why not just refund me and stop making yourselves look so childish.

 

I am writing to you in desire of the following;

 

1. Refund for £39.99,

2. A written apology from your Store Manager and/or higher management from Comet, this man cannot be allowed to call the police over a civil grievance if he cannot handle it and needs to be dealt with internally, are you going to put all your customers in fear of returning goods by threatening police action?

3. Compensation, I have been threatened/intimidated to back down from my complaint with threat of Police intervention. This is unacceptable and morally wrong, what a waste of emergency services time!

 

You have 1 week (Sunday 18th May 2008) to respond to this complaint to my satisfaction or I will begin proceedings on the following measures;

 

1. Speaking to the editor of my local newspaper (I have friends in journalism who would love to hear about this).

2. Speaking to Microsoft regarding your sale of opened/2nd Hand Consoles as brand new

3. Contacting my local trading standards office as well as consumer direct for advice on how to claim against you.

4. Contact my solicitor to claim liabel damages and deformation, I have been accused of breaking the law when I clearly had not done so, your security videos will confirm this.

5. Contact every Audio/TV/Video enthusiasts website and forums to ensure people are aware of your approach towards customers.

6. Write to each of your board of directors for a response to let them know just how poor their company is being managed in the field.

 

I eagerly await your response, you can contact me by email or preferrably post or telephone.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

Mr Matthew Lambourne,


 

 

 

Posted on May 12, 2008, 12:14 PM

78765

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Matthew. I understand how annoying this must have been for you and I would be livid also. However, when writing in this way and really having a go, I would always be careful with my grammar. Spelling mistakes, especially, look like you will not really be taking things further and you don't have as much credence as someone who writes a letter in the correct manner. I am by no way knocking you, just making an observation.

I had a similar experience with an internet company and it was even harder for me to control myself as they have no store to go into and rage at someone. All my conversations were on the phone and the staff I spoke with didn't even apologise. Good luck with getting an apology and some money back. Let us know how you get on.

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Posted on May 12, 2008, 8:44 PM

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[quote user="mlamb64150"]

You have 1 week (Sunday 18th May 2008) to respond to this complaint to my satisfaction or I will begin proceedings on the following measures;

5. Contact every Audio/TV/Video enthusiasts website and forums to ensure people are aware of your approach towards customers.

[/quote]

Except that you haven't given them till next Sunday - why should they look favourably on it now?

But instead it just kept on raining

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Posted on May 14, 2008, 3:28 PM

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1) Never buy from Comet

2) Never buy an extended warranty - if it's going to break it is likely to break within the 12 months guarantee, and besides for £139.99 you could easily afford a repair.

Never buy without seeing a product in action

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Posted on May 14, 2008, 4:57 PM

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Sorry to hear about your experience Matthew.  I too had a similar experience with the multi-award winning Sony W2000 LCD TV.  Having bought this from Sound & Vision (shop not online) both my wife and I were very dissapointed with the Freeview display, which was quite poor from anything under 4m.  I too had to pay a restocking fee and now am v happy with the TV I bought - but it cost me!

I frequently have a little browse around Comet & Currys and if I'm asked "can we help you sir?" I regularly make up a purchasing situation just to test their knowledge.  Almost without exception the staff in such mainstream superstores 1. lack product knowledge 2. lack any awareness of current technologies 3. don't have the foggiest which products are the best. 

My only advice would be at least go to a smaller, independent shop and read read read reviews and opinions on forums such as this before you make even a modest purchase.  Incidentally neither the LG or Toshiba screens are considered the best on the market, Sony or Panasonic are generally considered a foolproof option at almost any size.

Good luck for the future.

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Posted on May 23, 2008, 2:25 PM

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A couple of years back, I also had problems with Comet, re a Samsung DVD-HD850 (a replacement for 3[!] faulty Toshiba 350Es). The HD850 wouldn't upscale to 720p (no difference in pic quality using HDMI or SCART) + mega motion-blur/ghosting during dark/night scenes. When I returned the 850, Comet's staff - contemptuous, brusque and unapologetic - insisted on 'repair'. After 2(!) attempts with no change, a so-called engineer was sent to my home - still no cure. Again, I returned the 850, but was told I was still not entitled to a refund because the 'engineer’s report did not indicate that the player was irreparable' - arrgghhh!!! Finally, I took advice from Trading Standards & wrote (via recorded delivery) to Comet's MD, Hugh Harvey, outlining the saga & quoting, 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended)...'. I also reminded Harvey of Comet's corporate mantra: 'The new Comet "Vision" – with customer trust and staff training at its core.'. If it's of help, my letter's final paragraph was thus: 'As I am sure you are aware, the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) requires all goods supplied to be of satisfactory quality (ie free from defects). Clearly, therefore, Comet is in breach of contract and I now require a full refund. I trust that I can now rely on your courtesy and look forward to hearing from you promptly to make suitable arrangements. Yours sincerely...'. The next day I received a call from one of Harvey's office staff, quoting a ref number to take to my local Comet, along with the HD850 - I received a full refund. (I then bought a Denon 1920 - no probs, to date.)

Posted on May 24, 2008, 8:58 AM

82967

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Did you buy the Denon from Comet though?
Help You I can, yes, hmmm!

Posted on May 24, 2008, 10:23 AM

83182

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You should know trhat Comets best use is to go and have a look / spend time testing, before you finally use pricerunner and buy online.

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Posted on May 24, 2008, 6:42 PM

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[quote user="fr0g"]You should know trhat Comets best use is to go and have a look / spend time testing, before you finally use pricerunner and buy online.[/quote] 

I guess, if you don't have any ethics whatsoever... 

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Posted on May 24, 2008, 8:57 PM

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[quote user="JoelSim"]1) Never buy from Comet

2) Never buy an extended warranty - if it's going to break it is likely to break within the 12 months guarantee, and besides for £139.99 you could easily afford a repair.

Never buy without seeing a product in action[/quote] i once bought a washing machine with ext warranty from comet, it was repaired 18 times before i managed to get a replacement and only after many calls to their head office. never again. john lewis with a pricematch unless its a specialist shop!!!!!!!!!

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Posted on May 25, 2008, 12:42 AM

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[quote user="Andrew Everard"]

[quote user="fr0g"]You should know trhat Comets best use is to go and have a look / spend time testing, before you finally use pricerunner and buy online.[/quote] 

I guess, if you don't have any ethics whatsoever... 

[/quote] Yeah, this is really an issue here. Coz Comet are know for offering relaxed, patient, long demo sessions, are'nt they...?
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Posted on May 25, 2008, 10:54 AM

83374

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 I'm really against anyone taking up the time of staff at a bricks and mortar retailer then going off and buying cheaper online.

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Posted on May 25, 2008, 3:12 PM

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[quote user="Andrew Everard"]

 I'm really against anyone taking up the time of staff at a bricks and mortar retailer then going off and buying cheaper online.

[/quote] Im aware of your objection from previous posts and id agree in the case of a decent hifi shop demo (tho thats a matter for me, if others just feel they need to make the financial saving, ill not object, as theyre doing nothing legally wrong, as long as theyre paying for legit goods from a legit retailer). However, the most any of us is likely to do in Comet is look at a tv, and maybe ask a few questions. I have a hard time seeing that as a comparable infraction.
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Posted on May 25, 2008, 11:16 PM

83485

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Y'see I do - if those online retailers want the business, maybe they need to set up some strategically placed showroom where people can check out the goods and ask a few questions before buying online. Hey. you could even pay in these showrooms and take the goods away if you want... 

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Audio Editor, Gramophone

Posted on May 26, 2008, 1:13 AM

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Although I have to confess that I have done something similar in the past (demoed some kit, started to save up for it and bought it second-hand as my friend had found it for sale ridiculously cheaply), I do see Andrew's point and agree with it. What no-one seems to consider is the long-term effect of this behaviour, if we all demoed in shops and then bought online eventually all the shops would close- then where would we demo before buying online?

Why not try to strike up a good relationship with a local retailer? that way you can get a quality service and if you ask nicely. they will be willing to negotiate on price because they know that they will get your business regularly. It may still be slightly more expensive; but can be less hassle in the long run, particularly if anything goes wrong. Many local retailers offer free extended warrantees that are worth the price diffferential anyway, I got a 10 year warrantee from Meile on my washing machine from my local dealer that made purchasing from them much cheaper than Currys even with my NHS staff discount.
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