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Made in Britain? Sadly, not.

Last post Jul 27, 2008, 9:46 PM by JoelSim. (121 replies)
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:21 AM

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excellent show that eh foxy?

i take it you a paid up member of the TPF?
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:28 AM

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timwileman:
excellent show that eh foxy?

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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:29 AM

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I believe it's about striking a balance. We are pretty lucky because we have two really good farms that have well stocked shops, likewise we have the major supermarkets just a short journey away. We tend to use the farms about twice or maybe three time a month, due to budgets etc.  When we go to the supermarket we always check the labels and see which country that particular piece of meat originates from.


Although we'd much prefer to use the farms and local butchers and greengrocers all the time, often it's not always practical. There is a parellel when it comes to hi-fi. True, you have no say in where the product was made or assembled, but at least you can stay loyal to your local dealer

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:37 AM

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plastic penguin:

I believe it's about striking a balance. We are pretty lucky because we have two really good farms that have well stocked shops, likewise we have the major supermarkets just a short journey away. We tend to use the farms about twice or maybe three time a month, due to budgets etc.  When we go to the supermarket we always check the labels and see which country that particular piece of meat originates from.


Although we'd much prefer to use the farms and local butchers and greengrocers all the time, often it's not always practical. There is a parellel when it comes to hi-fi. True, you have no say in where the product was made or assembled, but at least you can stay loyal to your local dealer



It's not just about local for hifi, it's about small businesses with small turnovers wherever they are based.
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 11:52 AM

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JoelSim:
plastic penguin:

I believe it's about striking a balance. We are pretty lucky because we have two really good farms that have well stocked shops, likewise we have the major supermarkets just a short journey away. We tend to use the farms about twice or maybe three time a month, due to budgets etc.  When we go to the supermarket we always check the labels and see which country that particular piece of meat originates from.


Although we'd much prefer to use the farms and local butchers and greengrocers all the time, often it's not always practical. There is a parellel when it comes to hi-fi. True, you have no say in where the product was made or assembled, but at least you can stay loyal to your local dealer


It's not just about local for hifi, it's about small businesses with small turnovers wherever they are based.


Absolutely. We live in a small village and the amount of small businesses that have closed is scary. I'd prefer to pay a bit extra and buy from our local shops than go to a big organization. Outside factors sometimes dictates what or where you shop.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 12:02 PM

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I'm proud to live in one of the last parts of London that has no chain stores on the main shopping street, not even a Starbucks. The closest it gets is Fresh & Wild which opened before it was a chain. Loads of choice, loads of friendly little shopkeepers, loads of community spirit.
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 12:12 PM

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JoelSim:
I'm proud to live in one of the last parts of London that has no chain stores on the main shopping street, not even a Starbucks. The closest it gets is Fresh & Wild which opened before it was a chain. Loads of choice, loads of friendly little shopkeepers, loads of community spirit.


That's so refreshing to here that, Joel. Where we are the chemist, ironmongers and a few other shops close for lunch. They still only work half day on a Wednesday.

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 4:05 PM

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For the benefit of "RaveyGraveyDavey" and "JoelSim"

I've edited my post so as not to upset you chaps.  Obviously the 'three letter' word and "Choice" are a touchy subject for you.

I'm sorry I trod on a sore point ;-)

Here we go again.......

ALL THINGS in moderation chaps!. 

With most things, the right balance will emerge through the fog.

Whether
its Speakers made in Huddersfield or Hong-Kong.  Lamb chops from Wales
or New-Zealand.  Pork-pies from Melton-Mowbray or Moscow.

You Pays Your Money and You Takes Your Choice.

Choice
is the key.  Its the one thing that we need to maintain. [ No matter if
we are talking about Hi-Fi, Chickens, Cheese or Champagne  - CHOICE is vital!]

Chickens at "2 for a fiver" from the big supermarkets as
well as the Free-Range chicken Hugh is battling to promote - Both have
a market, both have their place.

Its when the balance is upset and choice removed that we should be worried. 

 

I just cant understand why I'm feeling V hungry all of a sudden!

Serenity 

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your own. And if you don't, then throw it away. Don't try to wear a shoe that
pinches."
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 4:24 PM

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plastic penguin:

Where we are the chemist, ironmongers and a few other shops close for lunch. They still only work half day on a Wednesday.

Gosh, how consumer-focussed Stick out tongue 

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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 4:25 PM

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Nobody has trodden on my sore point.It was a philosophical observation with a hint of humour.


(well it made me laugh) 

Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 8:43 PM

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Just like to apologise for my last post. A tad confrontational! Had a rough week, but no excuses. sorry folks
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Posted on Jul 23, 2008, 9:09 PM

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plastic penguin:

JoelSim:
I'm proud to live in one of the last parts of London that has no chain stores on the main shopping street, not even a Starbucks. The closest it gets is Fresh & Wild which opened before it was a chain. Loads of choice, loads of friendly little shopkeepers, loads of community spirit.


That's so refreshing to here that, Joel. Where we are the chemist, ironmongers and a few other shops close for lunch. They still only work half day on a Wednesday.



Local shops for local people.......

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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 3:21 AM

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Graham_Thomas:
Local shops for local people.......

There's nothing for you here...

Put away those fiery biscuits...

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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 5:00 AM

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Taksinridgeback:

I recently went out looking for speakers and a new amplifier, and was shocked to find that very little seems to be made in Britain, or indeed Europe, these days. My information may not be accurate, but apparently such great names as KEF, Wharfedale, Mission, Mordaunt Short, Audiolab, and some B&W, Arcam and Quad are no longer made in the UK.

Now, I'm not xenophobic, nor am I arguing about the quality, it's just that I wanted to support the local industry. When I expanded the net to Europe, I found that even the nominally Danish speaker component manufacturers such as peerless and scanspeak are also made offshore.



It's all about choices. Choose British and you'll be supporting what you stand for. Although I don't have much choice when I limit my choice to Dutch based hifi. There are some high end brands here but I suspect most of it is made using as much outsourcing as possible- as this is the most economical way of enterprise.
For as far as funds allow, I buy locally produced goods. In case of food, because it's fresher.

In case of electronics it's more complicated. I have some reservations buying Chinese goods because of the type of government and working conditions I'll be maintaining with my purchases.
Lets face it: we hardly ever consider where things are coming from and what effect our own choices have.
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Posted on Jul 24, 2008, 8:45 AM

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long live the daily mail :-)
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