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AVI ADM 9.1

Last post Oct 22, 2008, 5:37 PM by Andrew Everard. (190 replies)
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 12:28 PM

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Solomon1:
JoelSim:
I think that it's fine that people have strong opinions, especially about their own kit. After all that's why we're all here. I just think it's a bit too much when someone blatantly uses the forum to get across commercial messages to people who are requesting advice.


Joel, please calm down. For someone working in advertising, you sure have a chip on your shoulder when strong advertising language is used outside it's designated advertising space. If you're so concerned with our clear judgement, why not tell us of some insider marketing techniques and tactics...I think it would make an informing and entertaining read.
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 12:34 PM

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I have no issue with Ashley coming on here and advertising his products - you would expect him to like them, or else he wouldn't make them (presumably). I'm a big boy.

I'm more worried about his views on Apple.


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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 12:39 PM

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apples are good for you, an apple a day keeps the dentist away....i dont eat an apple a day and my teeth are rubbish so we have proof :-)

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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 12:49 PM

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timwileman:
apples are good for you, an apple a day keeps the dentist away....i dont eat an apple a day and my teeth are rubbish so we have proof :-)


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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 12:55 PM

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again, more despaerate words from WHF, when its so fa from necassary its not true.

its a shame whern neither party comes out looking good.

firstly, im not sure reviewing them would fit in with your ethos, woulkd it? i mean, thyre hardly widely agvailable.

secondly, bit of a waste of time to kep taking digs at ashley, eh? i mean, you do frequently respond to people who doubt your testing methods, and make sure you include the fact that you're jsut oh so dedicated that you buy the products where necassary.

so buy 'em and review 'em. or do'nt.

personally, dont care - theyre outta my league for now anyway.
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:07 PM

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Desperate - how? Just a perfectly civil question to Ashley, which I feel warrants an equally straightforward answer.

And yes, we could buy them, but shouldn't have to - if a manufacturer is so proud of their products, surely they're confident enough to have them tested (especially as we loved the original ADM9s).

I'd also rather use our kit-buying budget for more mainstream products far more of our readers are interested in.

And i'm not sure what you mean by 'ethos'? If it makes a sound or shows a picture, it's pretty much in our testing remit these days! We've got a Group Test of Active Speakers in our new issue out this Thursday, for example.


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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:24 PM

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Clare Newsome:

Desperate - how? Just a perfectly civil question to Ashley, which I feel warrants an equally straightforward answer.

And yes, we could buy them, but shouldn't have to - if a manufacturer is so proud of their products, surely they're confident enough to have them tested (especially as we loved the original ADM9s).

I'd also rather use our kit-buying budget for more mainstream products far more of our readers are interested in.

And i'm not sure what you mean by 'ethos'? If it makes a sound or shows a picture, it's pretty much in our testing remit these days! We've got a Group Test of Active Speakers in our new issue out this Thursday, for example.





perhaps ethos was the wrong word, im not having a "good english" day, as you can see. but i distinctly remember a post from you a while ago in which you said that availability was very much a concern. it may have been in the mag actually (sorry, wish i could be more specific but do'nt have time to search just now).

i just think it looks as tho you're trying to make yourselves look great to the unnecasary detriment of others. it doesnt look classy, and, weirdly, doesnt make you look confident in youre place in the market (god knows you should be), nor very respectful of your readers.

Anyway, i beg to differ. just think its really smug and unnecasary.
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:26 PM

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Must admit, it would be interesting to read a review of these. Out of my league too, but if the manufacturer can step up to the plate and state with what appears to be some degree of confidence in their product, is it really too much to ask for a review sample to be stuck in a taxi....?

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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:28 PM

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al7478, you do read some very strange things into some comments on this forum – and I'm really not quite sure why...
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:29 PM

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Understand where you're coming from, but think it's a bit unfair, if you bear in mind the usual tone of conversations here - it was a straightforward request, which appears to have been blithely ignored. If I were Ashley, and believed in my product as much as he does, I'd be driving a pair to Teddington myself (he can pop a pair round to my house at the same time - I mean if you can demo them to drummerman...........)

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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:31 PM

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Andrew Everard:
You do read some very strange things into some comments on this forum, don't you?



No, not at all. You simply misunderstood me in that other thread.

in this case, im not reading anything into it really. i just think it looks bad. you, and many others, im sure, disagree.
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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:32 PM

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JohnDuncan:
Understand where you're coming from, but think it's a bit unfair, if you bear in mind the usual tone of conversations here - it was a straightforward request, which appears to have been blithely ignored. If I were Ashley, and believed in my product as much as he does, I'd be driving a pair to Teddington myself (he can pop a pair round to my house at the same time - I mean if you can demo them to drummerman...........) Wink


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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:34 PM

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Wha? I'm just suggesting we spread a little of that love around. And if he's coming all this way......hey, I'll even meet him half way (outside Budgens).


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Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:36 PM

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We're all on the same side, aren't we? What I'd like to know is: what is the relationship between Ashley and drummerman? They must know each other pretty well - well enough to envite a forum member for a personal demo. If so, then, from what I've read, drummerman is helping to promote that product.


Sorry, but the whole thing sounds a bit fishy. Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick?!

Posted on Jul 21, 2008, 1:40 PM

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Ooo no no no.


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