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Can you hear the difference?

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Posted on Jul 12, 2008, 11:42 AM

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sheepboy1234:
have you also notest that the BBC DAB and Freeview stations sound/look better? think thay got the best spot and let every one else fight for what was left. hope the same dosent happen with freesat.


Beg pardon Sir, but 6music at 128kbps and 5live at 64kbps is hardly what I'd call audiophile, esp when Classic FM transmit at 192kbps...


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Posted on Jul 12, 2008, 2:48 PM

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professorhat:
Can I make a slightly controversial post?...

...Same with TV for me. I'm not bothered about TV really, I know the quality is far worse and this is why I generally watch either DVDs or Blu-Rays, but sometimes you just want to sit back and do nothing. TV offers you this luxury!

Again, just some thoughts, don't hate me for them!





Another example of why many here are'nt "joe public". I mean, you do'nt watch TV becaiuse of the inferior quality, even tho is not bad, and theres a wealth of stuff on it that you cant get on BluRay?

No hate here, mind, im jus' sayin' :)
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Posted on Jul 12, 2008, 11:46 PM

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Another contrary opinion to add to ProfessorHat's...I was brought up on Radio 1, first AM (rubbish quality) then later FM (great quality with a good aerial). However, as I grew up & my tastes developed I found that I couldn't listen to ANY station without getting iritated after 2 songs...until BBC 6music launched on DAB. This station is the one I've been waiting for half my life, I can switch on almost at any time and hear all my favourite music OR the kind of stuff I actually want to listen to. FM may be great quality but it is not what I want to listen to. Compressed DAB gives so much more choice, sooner or later you are bound to find the channel that suits you. I use a PURE Evoke connected to a CA 840a and it sounds very enjoyable - enough to listen to for hours on end anyway. Who cares if it's not 'audiophile' - if I want that I can put a CD on!!
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Posted on Jul 13, 2008, 12:14 PM

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al7478:
Another example of why many here are'nt "joe public". I mean, you do'nt watch TV becaiuse of the inferior quality, even tho is not bad, and theres a wealth of stuff on it that you cant get on BluRay?

Well, to be fair, the main reason I don't watch TV is because there's rarely anything worth watching on! But point taken.


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Posted on Jul 13, 2008, 2:53 PM

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professorhat:
al7478:
Another example of why many here are'nt "joe public". I mean, you do'nt watch TV becaiuse of the inferior quality, even tho is not bad, and theres a wealth of stuff on it that you cant get on BluRay?

Well, to be fair, the main reason I don't watch TV is because there's rarely anything worth watching on! But point taken.





oh, thats cool, but you would admit being in a minority i assume, and thats my point, rather than to disagree about tv contetnt being rubbish (i do disagree, but, as i say, thats not my point).
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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 12:09 AM

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Indeed I would admit that - knowing my friends who are probably much more "Joe Public" than I am and they watch Sky / Freeview all the time, even without some sort of PVR to record the stuff they like. I don't really understand it, but there you go!

I'm not sure how this fits in with my original argument though since I was arguing on the side of non-audiophile radio, just instant fix radio. Never mind though.


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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 3:46 AM

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professorhat:
Indeed I would admit that - knowing my friends who are probably much more "Joe Public" than I am and they watch Sky / Freeview all the time, even without some sort of PVR to record the stuff they like. I don't really understand it, but there you go!

I'm not sure how this fits in with my original argument though since I was arguing on the side of non-audiophile radio, just instant fix radio. Never mind though.





And i agree with your basic poinnt - as my original point was that theres no reaosn to make a stand with a thread complaining about it. the op seemed to think it would have an effect, and i disagree, precisely because its jo public who matters to the gov't.

radio doesnt bother me much as i mostly listen to talk radio, and if i get into any music through the rtadio, ill buy it, i just wont use a radio for serious listening. to me its nothing more than a good news outlet and a cheap way of hearing new music occassionally.

i think we're on the same page, basically.
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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 4:19 PM

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Dont you just love a good old debate ???? ;-)

> theres no reaosn to make a stand with a thread complaining about it.  the op seemed to think it would have an effect

al7478  -  Could you explain why you believe I cant open up a thread complaining about something that is of concern to me?

I cant imagine the powers that be gives 2 hoots about my views, your views or ANYONES views on this Forum. (Or any other platform for that matter).

Yet if you believe that doing anything at all is pointless (even getting it off your chest) then this so called democracy we live in, is in a far worse state than I had feared.

Thank you in anticipation

Serenity

 

 

Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 4:47 PM

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Serenity:

Dont you just love a good old debate ???? ;-)

> theres no reaosn to make a stand with a thread complaining about it.  the op seemed to think it would have an effect

al7478  -  Could you explain why you believe I cant open up a thread complaining about something that is of concern to me?

I cant imagine the powers that be gives 2 hoots about my views, your views or ANYONES views on this Forum. (Or any other platform for that matter).

Yet if you believe that doing anything at all is pointless (even getting it off your chest) then this so called democracy we live in, is in a far worse state than I had feared.

Thank you in anticipation

Serenity

 

 




to which i say calm down. are you saying i cant comment on the impotence of your complaint? what was that you said about democracy? but we're talking radio, not election fixing in African states, so lets keep perspective, and stay serene.


Afterall, you're the one who said:

"I just think that, if we dont air views such as these, the Big Brother style Gvmnt will continue to believe THEY know whats best. If no one raises their head above the parapet and says "Hang on a minute". Then their increasingly worrying tactics with grow and multiply."


i think we're being conned left right and centre, especially with the TV situation, but i just think you're being a bit alarmist, and that itll do nothing - "I know that this is vitriol/no solution/spleen venting/but i feel better having a scream/dont you?" kinda thing.

however, ive certainly not told you what you can and cant post, but i therefore have a right to reply. democracy at work again.

Now, shall we play "spot the R.E.M. lyric reference"?
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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 4:51 PM

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"Leon-uhrd-Burn-stine"


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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 4:57 PM

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lenny bruce and lester bangs.

birthday party cheesecake, jelly bean, boom!

i like a good narrative lyric writer, me.
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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 5:16 PM

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CALM DOWN!!

 calm down


CALM DOWN!!

Now why in heavens name would I want to do that?

Feather Spitting Spluttering Choking on my CornFlakes.

This debate is only  just getting out of first Gear.

Who CARES about DAB now -  Yippeee!

I'm hungry for more.

Serenity

 

 

Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 5:24 PM

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Serenity:

CALM DOWN!!

 calm down


CALM DOWN!!

Now why in heavens name would I want to do that?

Feather Spitting Spluttering Choking on my CornFlakes.

This debate is only  just getting out of first Gear.

Who CARES about DAB now -  Yippeee!

I'm hungry for more.

Serenity

 

 




but did you spot the rem references?
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Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 10:30 PM

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Without a good old debate, the Human Race will slip quietly into the soup it came out of.

Of course we eventually will, but I for one will go down fighting for the cause.

Not for me to be a sheep and lie down roll over and let the stamped trample me.

As Dear Old Bill Shank's once said:-

"Its not a matter of life and death -

  its more important than that"

 

Now what song does that lot come from?


Serenity

-dont let the Bug**rs get you down

 

Posted on Jul 15, 2008, 8:30 AM

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Serenity:

Without a good old debate, the Human Race will slip quietly into the soup it came out of



Just don't start a cable debate... ;)
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